An AP report yesterday gave an update on the status of Rifqa Bary, the Ohio teenager who fled from her Muslim family to Florida after she converted to Christianity, saying she was afraid her father would kill her. Florida courts eventually returned her to the custody of courts in Ohio, where she was placed in foster care. (See prior posting.) Now a Franklin County, Ohio Children's Services Board caseworker has filed a case-management plan that calls for Rifqa and her family to discuss their views of religion with each other as a first step toward reunification. However Rifqa refuses to have any contact with her parents or her brothers. The plan alternatively calls for locating other relatives or non-relatives with whom Rifqa could be placed if reunification with her parents is impossible. Next August 10 all of this becomes moot because Rifqa turns 18 and can leave foster care to be on her own.
Wednesday, December 02, 2009
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I would fear for this girl's life when she leaves to be on her own --I fear she will become an example of Islamic control over their youth--and she still will have trouble affording it. She needs a family to take her in.
There are literally MILLIONS of people in the USA willing and ready to help her. We offer religious freedom and protection here because of our first amendment and our Christian heritage.
Barb, the only difference between this girl leaving foster care and the thousands of teens who age out every year is that Bary will have people who see her as a poster child for their personal views falling over each other to help her out.
Does anyone know whether the guy who hid this girl from the parents and the police has been arrested yet?
I for one would adopt her. I have hosted other young people in my home when they first arrive in the U.S. Hear fears are real. Rifqa committed the Mother of All Crimes/Sins. Apostasy. Worse than dating a non-Muslim. Worse than laughing out loud. Worse than wearing Western clothing or lipstick.
The honor killings are done as painfully to the victim as can be managed. Amina and Sarah Said's father shot them through their torsos but avoided their hearts, so their suffering would be prolonged. The 911 tape of their cries of agony is heartbreaking. The Bridges TV guy who beheaded his wife for filing divorce papers on him calmly went to the police and reported that his wife was dead. Rifqa is in great danger and understandably distrusts her parents.
Other girls' parents have murdered their daughters in cooperation with each other. She knows this.
I believe Christian people are just as willing to take in 18 year olds who age out of foster care --if the kids are cooperative and willing to go along with house rules, curfews, substance use, church attendance,going to school or working --like our own kids under our roofs are expected to do.
We just aren't informed about such youngsters and asked to step forward in any public way --so that we know the need exists or whom to contact about needy youth--though I've heard about it vaguely--as here.
"We just aren't informed about such youngsters..."
Yes, you are. You already know about every one of that exists.
No, I don't! I have heard --and not often-- that there are such kids who need help, but there is not a public service campaign to connect me or make me feel this is an opportunity I should consider. Perhaps children's services do know of such kids --and should advertise.
but I don't want to comply with any state ideas of adult freedoms for such kids....such as no church influence.
I said, You already know about every one of them that exists.
And you said you didn't know of any.
You are correct. So am I. Do the math.
Huh? Make sense! I KNOW there are such kids who at 18 still need a foster home but are aged out and the state doesn't help --unless the youngster has disabilities. But no one is calling me up and asking me to take such people in. But it IS true that some of them need homes. We hear of it, but not as a personal opportunity.
*sigh* Sometimes I wonder how you've lived as long as you have...
These are the criteria you laid down: "...if the kids are cooperative and willing to go along with house rules, curfews, substance use, church attendance,going to school or working..."
How many abused, confused, and antisocial teenagers do you know who would be willing to adhere to what they would naturally see as more abuse and interference from adults they don't know and don't trust?
I'll tell you: none.
Then you said, "We just aren't informed about such youngsters..."
That's because there are none. So I said, "You already know about every one of that exists."
Yes, there are lots of teenagers out there who need help. But you have to understand that they are NOT going to turn themselves into perfectly-behaved little robot dolls for you to play with! They HATE you! You're part of the system that has been torturing them all their lives, and now you're offering to torture them some more and you've got the nerve to demand that they cooperate!
I make sense, Barb. I live in the real world. I'll bet you still have your doll collection.
Lady Janus, I don't understand why you reply to Barb with hostility and sarcasm. She has brought up a good point about aged out foster kids. I believe there are plenty of them who would relish the chance to have a loving sheltering home.
The kids who stayed with me came from good, intact families. Some resented my rules, others were glad of the protection they represented for them.
Just because a child reaches the age of 18, doesn't mean they are ready to be out on their own.
"Lady Janus, I don't understand why you reply to Barb with hostility and sarcasm."
That's because you're new here and you have no idea about the history of Barb and her ephemeral relationship with reality versus wishful thinking. Go do some reading in the archives and then come and tell me you don't understand.
"The kids who stayed with me came from good, intact families."
Those are not the kids about whom Barb was referring.
"I believe there are plenty of them who would relish the chance to have a loving sheltering home."
You are free to believe what you want.
They HATE you! You're part of the system that has been torturing them all their lives, and now you're offering to torture them some more and you've got the nerve to demand that they cooperate!
Well, my own children didn't and don't hate me. I didn't know all those aged out foster kids hated me--considering we haven't even met.
You are speaking of your own hate for parental authority, aren't you, Lady J.?
It's certainly true that a delinquent 18 year old who wants to smoke and drink and come and go at all hours, sleep around, not get a job and not go to church--that kid isn't going to do well in my home. But I hear there are others who need help and would accept structured situations and have no stable support or place to live --no help.
Why don't YOU take in the aged-out foster kids who are delinquent in their attitudes, irresponsible, and "users," --because you are right, they wouldn't like me.
Your own children are not the issue. And yeah, it's possible for people who have never met you to hate you because they see you as a symbol of something that threatens their chosen way of life. They don't know your name or what you look like or where you live, but they hate you.
And what "parental authority" do you imagine I hate, Barb? Nobody qualifies.
And I don't want to foster someone else's kids, Barb. Not my thing at all, at all.
Why doesn't that surprise me??
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